Sunday, July 31, 2005

Carter Should Go Away

Readers might remember an ex-president named Jimmy Carter. He was ushered in as an insider and ushered out as a failure. While honest men and women admit that the man was an incompetent president, some still claim he was a good man. This may have been true at some point, but it certainly is no longer.

Mr. Carter is over in Britain for a Bible conference of sorts and meanwhile he's taking the time to remind us why citizens voted for Reagan.

"I think what's going on in Guantanamo Bay and other places is a disgrace to the U.S.A.," he told a news conference at the Baptist World Alliance's centenary conference in Birmingham, England. "I wouldn't say it's the cause of terrorism, but it has given impetus and excuses to potential terrorists to lash out at our country and justify their despicable acts."

Wrong. This is actually quite despicable. He is saying that because we have a couple of enemy combatants locked up, the terrorists now have justification for their acts of decadence. The terrorists do not need justification, but Carter gives it to them anyway.

Carter also criticized the U.S.-led war in Iraq as "unnecessary and unjust."

I also think the Iraq war is misguided to be sure. But to say that locking up a couple of crooks is going to cause further terrorism is a non-sequiter. Terrorists are going to hit us again, regardless of what we do, and no, it's not because "they hate our freedom". It's because they want us out of their lives completely. They are sick of our troops in their homeland and the vitriol we call culture pervading their society. If we wish to keep spreading our secluar values and dealing with the Middle East, we're going to get more of the same. Guantanamo changes nothing.

"What has happened at Guantanamo Bay ... does not represent the will of the American people," Carter said Saturday. "I'm embarrassed about it, I think its wrong. I think it does give terrorists an unwarranted excuse to use the despicable means to hurt innocent people."

Only in your eyes Carter. The left loves to bend over backwards in an effort to understand these people. There can be some understanding gained, but to rationalize the irrational is the act of an insane person. Much of the left suffers from insanity it would seem.

Carter, who won the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize, has been an outspoken critic of the Iraq war.

This whole thing is almost too much nonsense to handle. I am not sure on what grounds Carter deserved a peace prize. Reagan ended the cold war and he lacks a peace prize. The Nobel Peace Prize is political and it means little, especially in application to Carter. Remember the Iranian hostages? Enough said.

The reason any of this is pertinent is because it illustrates both the cluelessness of the left as well as lact of class in Carter, and by extension his followers. Telling Bush--implicitly--how not to run the war on terror is akin to Hoover telling FDR how to run the economy.

If Carter were a good man, he would remain mute about this whole affair. He forfeited the right to criticize when he proved he couldn't do the job himself. It would be best if, instead of speaking, he grabbed his Bible and fell to his knees. It would not only be more effective, it would also be the prudent and good thing to do. For such an action--which he probably does do--he deserves respect. For talking he doesn't deserve the light of day. His remarks, like his presidency, should fade forever.

5 comments:

halcyon67 said...

I would not say that the activities at Gitmo are a disgrace, maybe an embarrassment.

but it has given impetus and excuses to potential terrorists to lash out at our country and justify their despicable acts.
Also, he is partially right that it further incites violence.
Bush said it as well.

The terrorists do not need any more justification.

Are you one of those who say they hate us for our freedoms?


If you are wondering I came across your blog through technorati.

halcyon67 said...

Are you on the left?

A Wiser Man Than I said...

"Are you on the left?"

I think I'm going to keep that quote. To answer your question, I am to the right of Bush.

As for the terrorists "hating our freedoms" I think that is utter nonsense. To quote Buchanan on the matter, "this insults the intelligence of a second-grader."

The terrorists hate us for several reasons. They hate our culture of moral depravity--and in that sense, I have to agree with them. They hate that we have involved ourselves in the Middle East. I am an isolationist and would glady forgo all these silly notions of empire. Lastly, they hate us because they are Muslims.

This last one sits poorly, but it is true nonetheless. Islam, as practiced, is not a religion of peace. By their fruits you will know them. Islam needs to be reformed to make it into the peaceful religion it purports to be.

What has been so embarrasing about Gitmo? We've made a few minor mistakes. I don't wish to drag us to the level of the fundamentalists and ask how our soldiers are treated over there. We're never going to be perfect, though we should strive for it. Gitmo has been problematic, but it's not the end of the world.

Welcome to Thoughts and Ideas. Glad you stopped by.

Barba Roja said...

Oh, where to begin...

Given that many senior military officials have expressed their belief that what happens at Gitmo is both illegal and counterproductive to the war on terror, I find it difficult to understand just why the right wing defends Gitmo so fiercely. Especially considering that most of the prisoners there are suspected of nothing and are eventually released. Sadism?

Besides, no liberal or conservative opponent of Gitmo is claiming that shutting the place down will make members of al-Qaeda love us; their focus is on the hundreds of millions of Muslims and Arabs whose opinion of America is still open to change. And, while perhaps seeing and hearing about what happens to the prisoners at guantanamo and Abu Ghrahib might not make people rush out and join bin Laden (although that seems to be just what is hsppening), it can alienate those whose support is necessary if the US intends to have a non-hostile relationship with those whom we claim to be trying to help.

Imagine if a gang of Americans snuck into Japan and started killing people. Criminals or no, we would be outraged if the Japanese stuck them in an offshore prison camp and did things to them that were outside the rule of japanese law because they claimed our citizens were too low to be worth the dignity of the legal system, all the while lecturing us on the superiority of their civilization and telling us we were a bunch of savages. It wouldn't go over well.

As for Reagan 'winning the cold war', there were many factors that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, including (but not limited to): the unworkability of their cumbersome economic system, the rise of labor unions in Eastern Europe, Western European leaders such as Willy Brandt embarking on diplomatic ventures with Soviet bloc countries, Pope John Paul II encouraging Catholic resistance, continuous pessure fromseven previous U.S. presidents, and many others. Reagan's efforts, such as his wild sprending binges and enthusiastic support for fundamentalist Muslim terror groups, have caused more problems than they solved.

High and dry, I'm guessing you've never seen a U.S. prison.

A Wiser Man Than I said...

Loyal,

I guess we'll see how history regards Reagan. I was merely pointing out that he was extremely instrumental in winning the cold war. Carter's biggest accomplishment seems to be Habitat for Hunanity. Laudatory for certain, but I'm not sure what he won the Peace Prize for--I'm guessing it wasn't HH.

"Besides, no liberal or conservative opponent of Gitmo is claiming that shutting the place down will make members of al-Qaeda love us; their focus is on the hundreds of millions of Muslims and Arabs whose opinion of America is still open to change."

This is a good one. Are you reffering to the Muslims who have condemned the hijackers or the Palestinian terrorists? Or perhaps you are thinking of the Ergyptians and others across the Arab world who rejoiced on Sept. 11th. That was pre-Gitmo I remind you. The Muslim world's mind has been made up. Gitmo may not be helping, but getting rid of it or cleaning it up will not change a darn thing.