Since this is the last post in this series, I want to thank everyone who participated, PJ especially. He promises to be busy the next couple of weeks, but we both hope to do something like this again if our schedules permit.
Throughout this little experience, I've conflated Mill's ideas with my own libertarianism more often that I ought to have done. In chapter five, it becomes clear that Mill and I have far less in common than I would have hoped; hence I must apologize for my unwarranted conflation.
We'll get to my disappointment with Mill soon enough, but first, I think it worth mentioning, at least briefly, how I've been reading this book. (Left to right, top to bottom, oddly enough.)
But seriously, having already become convinced of the necessity of liberty, my reading of Mill focused on ways to make the message of liberty more popular than it already is. I was both surprised and depressed at the popularity of the Ron Paul campaign; surprised because a message of liberty and limited government found more reception than I would have expected in today's Republican party, and depressed because so many people remained completely uninterested to the blessings of liberty.
I recently finished Justin Raimondo's Reclaiming the American Right, a polemical history of the folks from the Old Right, of which Paul--who re-read the book before seeking the presidency as a Republican in 2008--is the intellectual heir. This is actually pertinent, because it gets to the central flaw inherent in Mill's On Liberty. At the end of Raimondo's book is an essay by Scott P. Richert titled The Old Right and the Traditionalist Antipathy to Ideology. Therein, he writes:
There is no single "idea of liberty." I have one; Justin Raimondo has one; and John Podohertz has one. [Substitute Mill, PJ, and myself, and you get the idea.] And I dare say that no two of the three completely coincide... We value limited government, for instance, not because it is some platonic ideal, or it because it conforms to the (abstract) libertarian ideal of nonaggression, but because it it part of our historical [American] experience, and our historical experience has shown us its value (even if we have been made aware of its value most often in its absence).
An appeal to liberty, then, must be founded on some objective criteria--conservatives would suggest tradition--rather than an abstract idea. Which brings me, at last, to Mill, whose work, I think, ultimately falls short because of his failure to understand Richert's point. Mill writes:
[T]he individual is not accountable to society for his actions, in so far as these concern the interests of no person but himself... Secondly, that for such actions as are prejudicial to the interests of others, the individual is accountable, and may be subjected either to social or to legal punishment, if society is of opinion that the one or the other is requisite for its protection.
This may be taken, I think, as a summary of Mill's argument throughout On Liberty, but, as I alluded to above, despite the clarity of this line in the abstract, things become less clear when we come to individual examples. I will take a look at a few points with which I have considerable argument. For instance, after discussing the responsibility incumbent on parents to provide their children with a basic education, he notes:
The objections which are urged with reason against State education, do not apply to the enforcement of education by the State, but to the State's taking upon itself to direct that education: which is a totally different thing.
This strikes me as unusually naive. For one, if the State is to mandate that certain educational standards are met, they must use taxpayers funds--thus stealing the fruits of a citizen's labor--in order to do so; though it must be added that this would have to be cheaper than the current system of needless exorbitance. It would also cause an uproar in the legislative branch as the various masses sought to ensure that their particular idiocy was impressed upon the people.
More importantly: children either belong to their parents, or to the State. If they belong to their parents, the parents hold all responsibility for them, however poorly they may educate them. If they belong to the State, than the State has a duty to educate them, but it also in effect owns them--an assumption too readily swallowed by people today. Maleducation is not reason enough to violate liberty.
The laws which, in many countries on the Continent, forbid marriage unless the parties can show that they have the means of supporting a family, do not exceed the legitimate powers of the State: and whether such laws be expedient or not (a question mainly dependent on local circumstances and feelings), they are not objectionable as violations of liberty.
This is even more absurd. The State can only support a family by robbing other families, a recourse which is just as available to the poorest members of society, so there is no argument there. Further, children again belong to their parents, not the infernal State. Here lurks the creeping totalitarian beneath every theorist who too readily separates himself from the common experience of the rest of mankind. In an essay ostensibly defending liberty, Mill actually claims that the State may prevent citizens from entering into a free contract. This is too near forced sterilization for my blood.
To his credit, Mill seems to recognize the dangers of an increase in the size of government. One very much wonders what he would have to say to us today:
If every part of the business of society which required organized concert, or large and comprehensive views, were in the hands of the government, and if government offices were universally filled by the ablest men, all the enlarged culture and practised intelligence in the country, except the purely speculative, would be concentrated in a numerous bureaucracy, to whom alone the rest of the community would look for all things: the multitude for direction and dictation in all they had to do; the able and aspiring for personal advancement.
A very wise warning, which conjures up the fascistic realms which haunted Europe--and much of the rest of the world--in the following century.
I give Mill the last word:
The worth of a State, in the long run, is the worth of the individuals composing it; and a State which postpones the interests of their mental expansion and elevation, to a little more of administrative skill, or that semblance of it which practice gives, in the details of business; a State which dwarfs its men, in order that they may be more docile instruments in its hands even for beneficial purposes—will find that with small men no great thing can really be accomplished; and that the perfection of machinery to which it has sacrificed everything, will in the end avail it nothing, for want of the vital power which, in order that the machine might work more smoothly, it has preferred to banish.
Monday, August 04, 2008
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Hey Eric,
As I'm currently at an out-of-state family reunion and in the midst of a cross-county move, I'm just going to respond to your post without reviewing the text in light of your commentary.
You are right to note the difficulties of articulating with scientific precision the concept of liberty that we want to defend, and that this is the real locus of our disagreement. I think that I'm closer to Mill than you, in that I believe true liberty requires some positive conditions to enable and develop our crucial human capacities. (If you've observed Mill and I diverging in any significant way, I'd be curious to know where.) Freedom from external interference doesn't amount to much if you lack the resources to initiate and pursue genuinely fulfilling projects. And this, in our society, requires quite a bit of education, among other things. In my view, a government that does not provide these resources fails in a crucial respect to ensure the liberty of its citizens. And to be paralyzed by the inevitability of minor imperfections in any system is no less reprehensible. With enough work in enough disciplines, those to whom it matters will slough off the worst of their teachers' doctrinal errors.
Although I agree with your general point about the danger of abstractions, I'm not convinced that this stands as an objection to Mill's doctrine of liberty. It is true that his philosophy fails to be concretely action-guiding -- i.e., it doesn't provide an objective decision-procedure for every actual conflict -- but I regard this as an impossible demand. The appeal to "tradition," for instance, is every bit as abstract: decisions must always be made about what practices to include in the tradition, and there is no objective way to do this. What Mill provides, as I see it, is a language, heuristic, or framework for resolving the actual cases that we do encounter. What particulars fall under what valuational concepts will in many areas be a matter of ongoing debate. Of course we want to resolve as much of this as we can, but without stifling innovation or allowing any one group to force its understanding on another.
I'd also like to note in passing that it's unfortunate we don't have anyone here to disagree with us about the centrality of liberty. There are plenty of well-educated and intelligent people who would dispute at least the comprehensiveness of liberty as a political objective. One might want to emphasize some kind of equality, for instance, quite apart from any connections it might have to freedom. Also, various theocratic visions retain a vivid grasp on considerable segments of the world's population. It's nearly impossible for me to take these later proposals seriously, but, when universalized across a culture, this is a dangerous political blindness. If we are, in fact, right to insist upon liberty as the ultimate political objective, it is our responsibility to maintain it as an ideal to be freely criticized, affirmed, and developed.
Best,
PJ
PJ,
I'll be traveling this weekend. Look for a post early next week.
Freedom from external interference doesn't amount to much if you lack the resources to initiate and pursue genuinely fulfilling projects. And this, in our society, requires quite a bit of education, among other things. In my view, a government that does not provide these resources fails in a crucial respect to ensure the liberty of its citizens... With enough work in enough disciplines, those to whom it matters will slough off the worst of their teachers' doctrinal errors.
I'm not about to debate the importance of education, but I don't think that's something the government need provide. A small amount of education may be undertaken by the parents, or perhaps the Church, after which students can get much of what they need from the library and the Internet.
I don't blame Mill, but when you look at the fact that we spend upwards of ten grand per pupil per year in most inner-cities, I think we may need to re-examine who should be responsible for education.
It is true that his philosophy fails to be concretely action-guiding -- i.e., it doesn't provide an objective decision-procedure for every actual conflict -- but I regard this as an impossible demand.
This was largely my thought, too, but I still find Mill's piece to be flawed because of it, which is probably a bit harsh. Basically, everyone--or at least all Americans--will say they defend liberty. But if we don't explain in detail how liberty may be violated, I don't see how we can avoid something like we see in America today, namely, an increasingly despotic rule unnoticed by most of the citizens who believe we are still free.
The appeal to "tradition," for instance, is every bit as abstract: decisions must always be made about what practices to include in the tradition, and there is no objective way to do this.
Tradition also provides arguments for why certain customs have been deemed acceptable. Tradition could thus be used to determine whether or not a suspension of a perceived liberty would likely prove beneficial--or tyrannical. I realize that it's incomplete, but I think it offers more guidance than you're willing to grant.
I'd also like to note in passing that it's unfortunate we don't have anyone here to disagree with us about the centrality of liberty.
Well, I am a libertarian after all... But I think this is a cultural phenomenon--though of course it extends beyond American soil. We both defend liberty, only you want to tax me to pay for schools, and I want to prevent mothers from killing their unborn children. The devil in the details and all that.
Also, various theocratic visions retain a vivid grasp on considerable segments of the world's population.
I'm not sure what you mean here. It would be splendid if you would elucidate.
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